Employees with the Los Angeles Newspaper Group will have their wages cut starting this month, with the reductions first showing up in March paychecks. Senior managers will lose 10 percent of their salaries and most other staffers will experience a 5.5-percent cut, according to a Feb. 2 memo from LANG President Fred Hamilton. Employees making under $10 an hour are exempted.
LANG has already ordered furloughs and a vacation freeze for most employees. Hamilton says the wage reductions should be enough to avoid layoffs.
LANG comprises nine newspapers in Southern California and is part of the MediaNews Group chain.
*Update: A copy of Hamilton's memo is here.
In addition to being a morale sucker, the wage cut comes on top of a 10-day unpaid furlough, which is also a wage cut in disguise. When you add how much employees will lose from the furlough to the 5.5-percent cut announced today, it equals almost 9.5 percent in lost wages. And that comes after years of stagnant salaries and shrinking newsrooms, which force reporters and editors to do more work just to keep up.
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To quote my j-prof, "They cut all the fat and stripped all the muscle; now they're just scraping bone."
geez, it's so bad at LANG that even a j-school professor can tell.
More like bleaching the bones.
Gary, I think it's a great service that you post this stuff, but might I suggest as a favor to those folks still suffering in LANG that you no longer give Singleton an outlet for his self-serving lies about how much he loves news gathering.
Just a thought.
Time for everyone to take the same day off and tell Fred and Lean to go F themselves.
Mike,
I appreciate your comment, but don't understand the part about this being an outlet for Dean Singleton. Quoting a fish say he's a bird doesn't mean you believe he can fly. Given all that I've written about the newsroom cuts and layoffs in MediaNews, I feel confident the readers of this blog can assess for themselves Singleton's newsroom commitments.
Best,
Gary
"Blue flue" anyone?
I meant "flu."
Not report what DS says? Contradict him, get mad at him, laugh at him, ignore him, whatever you want. Gimme the whole story, always.
These bones have been sitting on the sun way too long and are way past bleached. They are pulverizing them.
Everyone is scared crapless right now about this but if we don't do anything about it, they will continue to keep their boot on our throats. Everyone has to stay home one, two or three days, as long as it takes without publishing to teach these people we are not going to take it any longer. Enough is enough. Don't know about you but we need to band together, but like sheep to slaughter but like the good people of Egypt and say we are done with your abuse. We will not be raped any more so that Lean Dean, Fred Hamilton, and specially Steve Lambert can keep their facade any more. They take home the money that belongs to us and our families. We do all the work and they literally rape us for it. Good night and let the revolution begin.
(Kneeling at my bedside, hand together close to my face in prayer) Dear Lord, thank you for giving me the strength to walk out when I did. I am much more happier working with people who really care about what I do. Although I took a wage cut when I left, since I've been there, peace of mind has come into my soul. I no longer fear going to work every morning but instead embrace my good fortune. And, since I've been there, my employer has shown he cares for me and has brought my wages up to what I was making before, thus giving me this win-win situation that I am so thankful for now. Lord, please give all the others the strength to say enough is enough and walk out of the living hell they are living in right now. Good bless you all.
this is just incredibly heartbreaking to do this to people just to acquire another paper. unreal.
9:40 very well said. i wish someone could post this to make it more visible. these poor lang folks. breaks my heart to see them go through this. i wish that they all get out of this bad marriage.
are Daily News and P-T newsrooms, which are unionized, affected by the cuts?
yes, it's lang wide. EVERYONE in LANG is affected regardless of union or non union.
The PT did not receive the letter. Actually the PT just got a 2% raise. They have the lowest pay out of all of LANG.
Wonder what they are going to do when they buy the OCRegister with everyones money $
keep working there and keep bending over...once you know what you are dealing with, you make the choice to stay. it shouldn't have taken long to know what you are dealing with.
fred hamilton hasn't had an original idea in the about four years he has been there. surprised he was able to distribute the news. who promotes thess no talent losers?
Fred baby, you never had any loyalty or support from employees. Why would you? The economy is improving...your business is not. What prevents you from recovering...leadership, talent and vision. All lacking greatly.
Isn't about time for you to fade away?
Groundhog day.
I feel even worse than the last bad news for all LANG employees and especially my former PT co-workers.
I don't think getting rid of Doug's $80,000/year salary will make any difference now.
Yes, that's how much he makes.
TIME TO MOBILIZE
The company will have to negotiate with the unions, I believe, before enacting any pay cuts. As for the P-T raise - that came after two years of no raises, while other papers did receive raises. The P-T happens to be one of the lower paid newspapers in the group, yet i've heard that it's making more money than DN or DB.
First, cuts shouldn't be across the board, but based on the income level of the staffs and the revenue being created.
Second, time for all of the other newspapers to wake up. UNIONIZE! MOBILIZE! Join up with PT and DN staffers.
Third, I like the sick out idea. But it can't be just one newspaper. EVERYONE at every paper should sick out, plus the copy desk, plus as many managers and editors as we can get on board. Stir up community support, create some press and attention. The company will think twice then.
It's all fine and good to tell the LANG employees they should leave but many of them have no where to go and need the paycheck. Be constructive and post job listings at least!
Just to set the record straight. SGVN has not received raises in two+ years, so to say all the other papers besides PT received raises is not true.
Secondly, I don't think PT is the lowest paid newspaper. It isn't a contest, but the inland papers and SGVN probably take the cake there.
Good thing my hope is in stable GOD and not in a place of employment. Jehovh Jirah shall supply ALL my needs.
Unionize? You kidding me? The union is absolutely gutless!
As someone else said, arguing over who makes the most, or gets paid the least, is like a harem fighting over which whore the pimp loves the most. That nonsense needs to stop.
The only thing that'll ever make a difference is ALL the employees standing together. Joining the union is the fastest route and offers better protections, but the point is sticking together. A mass sickout, hell even a byline strike (not sure if that's legal for nonunion employees) across all the papers will have an immediate impact. Shared content between union and nonunion papers took a big bite out of the newsroom's power at all the individual properties. Standing together is the only way to restore any semblance of parity to the situation. I would hope that self respect and self preservation overrides inane politics or archaic notions about competition. At this point, it's a simple matter of common sense.
Sometimes we (unionized workers) go along to get along, at this point it doesn't make sense to do that. The company wouldn't negotiate when it came to furloughs. So we didn't participate in either the 5 day a few years ago or the current 10 day.
Dont want to start a union vs not debate here. However, the union has proved to be timid on press shutdowns and closures as well as layoffs. Having said that, employees still have choices and if you choose to stay there what they continue to do shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Employees won't mobolize...this has been spinning for at least three to four years and te announcements get worse each time. I understand needing a paycheck and doing what you have to do to survive, but, it won't get better there. The twits in charge only get worse and make even poorer decisions. You cant set low expections with this group because they will always underachieve.
That the union (which is to say the employees at the pt and dn) hasn't "beaten" the company is true. Like I said earlier, one group that's part of a larger collective has limited powers at best.
But this isn't about whether or not unions are good. If you hate them, don't join. But you would do well to consider standing with the rest of the employees, which includes the union newsrooms. And employees working together is exactly what a union is all about. Everything else is semantics.
It's all well and good to lock arms and talk about solidarity, but that won't make these papers profitable. It won't improve the journalism. It won't sell a single ad.
The sad truth is that the business model is broken and in irrevocable decline. Singleton isn't even in charge any more, so blaming him may feel cathartic but it's pointless. The best thing to do is keep working hard, focus on journalism, and hang on for dear life.
I posted earlier on TIME TO MOBILIZE.
I don't know the numbers, but you're very likely correct that the inland papers are paid less. Then again, cost of living is less there - but like someone said earlier, it doesn't really matter.
I agree that the business model is broken, and that's a problem all newspapers are struggling with. But there is one standard business model that has worked for centuries - you have to invest money in your business to make money. How about the company stops slashing resources, including online (you know, the future), and accepts lower profit margins, and maybe even GASP! hire MORE people, so that we can make some real improvements at these newspapers?
And if the rumors are true that MediaNews wants to buy the OC Register, and has the cash to do it, then clearly the company doesn't give a damn about investing in us, so i sure as hell am not going to "chip in" to help the company. The whole "times are tough" line has been overused, and I have no sympathy.
On the union issue - unions aren't perfect, and some aspects I don't like, such as layoffs based on seniority so that we lose some of our youngest, brightest and most technologically savvy staff, while lazy, out-of-touch reporters who've been here for decades stay around. However, unions can and do stand up to the company. The PT union said no to last year's furloughs, and survived unscathed. With the new contract, the PT had a guarantee of no layoffs for one year. PT is still negotiating the new furloughs and vacation accrual freeze, which the DN finally caved on last week, hoping it would help them survive further cuts. How did that work out? DN is still being told to cut pay.
If we unionize all the papers and stand together, maybe we can stop the bloodbath.
So how do we start?
One last point from an ex union member: there are plenty of thing that were/are in the contract I didn't like. But they ddidn't come from some union playbook, they were put there by the employees that came before me. There is no "standard" union contract that has to be followed. If your newsroom doesn't want something, it doesn't go in the contract. That's the best and worst thing about collective bargaining - everyone has an equal say in the process. No single individual will ever be estatic with the results, but they shouldn't be heartbroken either. To paraphrase Franklin, "It's the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried before."
As far as getting started, just send an email to Vicki DiPaolo. I know the pt and dn have been hoping to rally the other papers for years, so we can all get a little forward momentum. Lord knows we need it.
Just to clarify, I didn't mean not reporting what he says. I just meant don't let it stand unchallenged. When he's lying, call him a liar.
Like and abused spouse coming back for more. " no he loves me really he does ! " - PIMP SLAP !
can't sit here and keep silent on this. Folks, wake up. So many people have left and have gone on to bigger and better. There's a whole big wide world out there. The one's left for some reason feel like this is the best they can do. They should be happy and blah blah blah. Why not raise your standards and think higher than so low. When you know better, you do better. No one is a victim here. At this point, MNG knows that the folks left are the desperate one's and thus he treats you like crap. Otherwise, you are just taking it in the pants and perhaps too comfy to leave...even with all the mistreatment. Wake up. It's not going to get better. It might even get worse.
3:54 it's not a rumor about being the OC register. it's a fact. it will happen. MNG is now owned by the hedge fund called alden group. three of their board members are part of freedom. read between the lines. and no use in slamming MNG or dean...they don't have control anymore. it's the alden group.
Affiliated Media Inc, the parent of MediaNews, had filed for bankruptcy protection a year ago and emerged in March under the ownership of some lenders including investment firm Alden Global Capital. It owns 54 daily U.S. newspapers and says it is the No. 2 U.S. newspaper publisher by circulation.
Alden is also part of a group of lenders that owns Orange County Register publisher Freedom Communications, which emerged from bankruptcy protection in April.
ALDEN GROUP is the hedge fund running things now. It's not Dean or MNG. They already own the OCR and have three board members.
It's only a matter of time before the OC Register gets brought into the fold. And then what?
...take a wild guess. I'm no expert, but something tells me the new debt load will cause yet more "regretable conditions."
What do you mean it's not Lean Dean's fault any more. He is the one who put every single one of you in this situation. He is the responsible party here and don't you forget it. Everyone left at these MNG places are scared out of their wits because like someone else said, their standards are so low and their self esteem is non-existent that they think no one else will want them and so they stick with what they know, the blows from the drunk husband every night. All of you, get that steak ready cause your eye is gonna have a rough one again tonight.
Important to remember: Singleton is a nothing at Media News now. An "ambassadorial" position as Nieman Labs website put it. This is the grinding, ripping, sucking work of Alden Global and the other vampire funds. There will be more of the same throught the Southland (they have pieces of LA Times, OC Register).
http://www.niemanlab.org/2011/01/the-shakeup-at-medianews-why-it-could-be-the-leadup-to-a-massive-newspaper-consolidation/
Register is next. Then the Times.
"I drink your milkshake - I drink it alllllll up."
very sad news
lock arms, join the union...come on...what did it do for the pressmen? the union now is like a toothless cocker spaniel.
Join the 5 person union? Come on, that's a joke. They didn't help when we didn't get a raise, moved to Torrance, then to SGV, then laid off, then furloughs, then a pay cut. Their record shows that they don't do anything that benefits employees.
So is the Daily News if they take the second furlough.
It will never be perfect especially a frustrated journalist who wants to blame the union for the cuts.
I you want to lament about performance verses seniority then why has all the Managers stayed despite horrible performances ?
The old days of reviews that come with a raise are over. They don't care how many sick days you don't take !
we'll beat this to death like we do on all of these comment threads, but I would like to say, with a union, at least you have an opportunity to stand up. there's no guarantee a union can stave off cuts/furloughs/layoffs, but when there's a contract in place, we have the right to bargain it with management. without a union, you have no voice to even begin that conversation. the Bay Area papers successfully unionized a few years back. LANG might as well give it a try. I don't know who the DN steward is, but if you're interested you should find out and give him or her a call.
managers stay because their bosses are gutless and wouldn't know how to hit water if they fell out of a boat. believe it or not, some newspapers are increasing their profits, giving raises and restoring benefits given up over the last few years. it is called having solid leadership.
unions won't do a thing. as said above, look at the pressmen...all gone.
I remember a few years ago when some corporate guy -- his name was Jim Janiga or something like that -- was going around the newsrooms meeting with managers about the company's fear that the newsrooms would unionize.
The managers were all coached to try to dissuade any talk of unionization by pointing out all the drawbacks to any staffers who brought up the conversation (some of the commenters on here are sticking closely to his script).
Seeing how scared the corporate HR people were of unionization, I came to the conclusion then and there that it would be good for LANG workers.
I'm sad to see all these years later that the company's fear of empowered employees have yet to be realized.
A few things:
1) The union rhetoric on this thread is so lame. The union only cares about the PT because its headquarters is in Long Beach. Dues are too high, and those who pay don't know that the money goes to support Justice for Janitors and frankly, other immigration issues that some people may not completely agree with. So the union right now is worthless to journalists.
2) Not everyone can leave the paper. Some of us have always dreamed of being reporters and some of us struggled to get to where we are. It's not easy just to get up and leave and become a flak or LAUSD clerk. Many of us stayed because we're waiting for the job market in general to improve. I know people who have left the DN, PT and so on. They all ended up going back to school or taking flak jobs. Some of us don't have rich parents to support us through more schooling, and some of us actually have a soul so flaking is a big NO. Does it suck that the company we work for has betrayed us again and again? You bet. Will they continue? Yup, because as one poster said, the company is like an abusive relationship. Will many of us who have endured stay much longer? When the job market improves, most of us will leave with a one finger solute to Dean and the gang.
I say to all you current MNG/LANG employees: Move on. Seriously, find an outlet to a better or stable or more benefiting job. i doubt the current flock of MNG/LANG workers want to worry about making their rent, car and bill payments with 5% less money. The company is pushing you guys to leave and you guys should use this time to find a way out before you get laid off or lose another 5% pay.
To "February 4, 2011 1:16 PM":
I'm appalled. You have valuable skills that go beyond newspaperin, yet you seem resigned to endure the mistreatment.. How can you just lower your head and take this? You are betting on the economy improving and THEN leave...what if MNG does not wait to can you until then? I'm nobodt to tell you to quit your job now, but give youself a chance and start looking NOW.
The wage cuts hurt even more because it means on top of having an editor that puffs on the magic dragon before editing our stories, two assistant editors who aren't qualified and too bitter to edit, and an online department that is inconsistent with posting stories, we lose part of our paycheck. If anything, I wish the banks would come in and reinterview everyone, and expose the mismanagement going on that hardworking reporters have to deal with everyday. I say to the banks, instead of cutting wages try getting into the newsrooms and take out the trash.
I no longer work at the PT but I am curious what's atmosphere and morale at the Arco Towers these days? How many non advertisement people work at the Arco Towers now?
For my friends still employed and loosing wages, hang in there and I understand that
it is difficult.
I wish I could tell you the alternatives are much better.
The reality is that after 1 ½ years of looking for work both in and outside of journalism throughout the country; there are few opportunities…none if you’re over 50.
If anyone here thinks that most people still working at LANG haven't been sending out resumes to the few job openings in any realted field, they aren't talking to the right people. Believe me, we are doing it ... constantly. Most companies are downsizing, not hiring. Unless you're willing to retrain in another field, you're pretty much stuck.
People need to broaden their search for a job new job. There is no way that a person that works at the PT/DN etc. is going to find a job identical to the one they have. Use your journalism/English degree and search otuside the newspaper field. Don't make excuses for yourself!
it sucks to be in this industry and it will continue to suck. working at lang must be about as bad as it gets at newspapers. the bankers will come forward and chage the leaders and that is a good thing. more heads will be cut, but, at least those left standing will have a chance at success.
i'd like to know if the current ad team and editorial team would follow their bosses into battle. it sounds like no, but, don't want to speculate much. if the answer is no, that is a large problem.
how long will the current clueless clowns be allowed to run the place even further into the ground?
hamilton can't even write a good memo.
You would have to be brain dead to believe this group would not continue to screw you. And, they will continue to do so. Like an addict, they just can't help themselves. Singleton is attempting to run a newspaper in the horse and buggy days and his organization does not have a clue on how to compete.
All of those who stay are gutless. Get up search and find a job. There are many reporter jobs out there. But you don't want to leave the comfort you are accustomed to. You are all weak and spineless. You don't want to go a day without eating, a day without your cable, a day without doing your hair, you want to keep paying that house that's under water, you want your kids to stay in that expensive private school. Go get a job and if you are real journalist, you will find it. But you all want it easy, you want the steady meager salary you make and for you that is better than the uncertain that is out there. You do not want to take a chance and you are paying the consequences.
Nothing is life comes easy and if you want to move ahead and if you want the daily abuse and raping to stop, get off your lazy butt and find a place where they will treat you with respect. I would rather make minimum wage than put up with all the crap you guys put up with day in and day out. Those who stay and take it, deserve it.
To whoever posted anonymously at February 4, 2011 9:37 PM:
I will not stand to have the men and women I work with be called "gutless" by someone who won't even use his or her government name on a blog.
You would rather work minimum wage? That's one of the stupidest things I have ever read. You are insulting people simply for working for an organization that gave them a 5.5 percent pay cut and insisting that it is somehow more noble to take a 25 to 33 percent pay cut? What wonderful job have you found where basic logic does not apply?
You may have noticed the unemployment rate in this state is greater than 12 percent. You seem to want people who are already in difficult financial situations and just try their luck?
If you have some wisdom that can help people find a better job, why don't you post that instead of throwing stones? If not, shut the hell up.
I don't like MNG. First hand experience give me the right to say so. They continue to drain their employees. They headed full speed to the cliff and fell and that behavior will continue until they find a brain. That might be wishful thinking. If you choose to work their, no issue with me, but, don't be surprised when this crap happens. Calling people gutless is spineless. Also, many people who work there who are not journalists and many here seem to forget that. And as always, by far and away, no other company ever listed here gets the reaction of MNG...amazing. May those who work there have a smooth road ahead.
Andrew Edwards,
I appreciate you standing up for your friends, but this is about more than a 5.5% pay cut and a bad economy.
The pay cut comes on top of two weeks of furloughs -- the second round of furloughs. You have vacation freezes, you lost your 401k match. Those who have not been laid off are forced to do more work, to give more hours of their lives to the company for less pay.
You've easily lost 25% of your compensation already, and the company is going to keep taking more.
Plus there's the daily indignity of getting up in the morning to go work for a company that clearly disrespects you.
After every cut the company lies to you, tells you this is the last sacrifice you have to make to get the organization back on sound financial footing. Then, six weeks later, they dick you again.
This nonsense has been going on for more than two years now.
The economy is bad and jobs are hard to find. But they're not impossible to find. Many, many people have escaped.
Be honest, most of the people still at LANG haven't made honest efforts to get out. There's been plenty of time to do so.
8:17 has written the most articulate and well thought out etc. comment in this entire posting. kudos to you, my friend. Everything you said was pure facts and also honesty in relation to current employees.
Dear Anonymous 9:37,
I just want you to know....I have taken the first step. I did NOT do my hair, since eating and doing your hair is for gutless people.
Next, I will skip lunch!
Insulting to hard-working people who have to feed their families and pay their rent. I cut cable and landline years ago, applied for countless jobs inside and outside media outlets. You're lucky if you even get a reply these days. If you got out and have a new job, good for you. Don't insult people who are just trying to survive.
Feb. 4 1:16, you say "some of us actually have a soul so flaking is a big NO." I'm sorry, but this is way too simplistic and not accurate. As much as I support your willingness to stand by your principles, the world is not black-and-white, journalists good, all other communications professionals bad. I suspect if you talk to some former MNG journalists who now do public relations, public affairs, media relations, internal communications, or even marketing, they will tell you that while they miss the newsroom atmosphere, they were also pleasantly surprised to learn "the dark side" is no such thing, and that you can in fact have a rewarding career outside of newspapers. This might be a way out of the MNG death trap, if you allow yourself to see it.
If you personally decide your beliefs won't allow you to do anything but journalism, fine. I wish you well. But don't perpetuate the myth that all journalists are crusading white knights and PR is exclusively for soulless sellouts. I can name a dozen corporate stooge editors and a dozen unblemished spokespersons as counterexamples.
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS !!!!
To -Anon-February 4, 2011 9:37 PM:
You have been posting on this blog for years now, pumping the run don't fight it message. I love your work!
You must be a frustrated writer who's still trying to desperately hanging on to a dream. We hear you ! it's ok let it out !
There's plenty of jobs out there ... way out there ... way, way out there .... somewhere ... It's all about attitude ... yes, that's the ticket .... winners never quit and quitters never ... what was that line again? winners never quitter, and quitters never twitter, or prosper ...? I know there's a job out there somewhere, just gotta brush up my job-seeking skills ... yes, that's it .... gotta get a resume ... maybe read a book on ebay businesses ... no, that's so 2006 ... hmmm ... gotta get a job ... experience and attitude, that's what nick nolte said in 48 hours ... that's it ....
There are at least 100 jobs posted in the last week here for writers. Any of you willing to take a shot, a real shot at one of them?
http://www.journalismjobs.com/search_jobs_all.cfm
It might mean you have to leave the comfort you've learned to love. You may have to move somewhere else, you might have to write a resume and go on an interview.
Who am I kidding. No one at MNG will even look at this link because they prefer the easy way out, which is to suffer under the thumb of Lean Dean.
"Come on dear, I promise I won't drink again and I won't hit you again."
jornalismjobs.com has 421 reporter listings in the last month. What are you waiting for? Now that you have the link, you also want someone to write your resume, make the calls, hold you by your hand like mommy did the first day of Kindergarden.
lang is great, lang is good, i am so greatful to be working in such an uplifting and nurturing enviornment. thank you so much.
To "February 5, 2011 9:38 PM"
While I agree that those suffering under the abuse of MNG need to abandon ship, posting a link to 421 openings on jjobs is laughable. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the most frequented site among MNG employees; along with Monster, Craigslist, etc.
We are no longer in the era of emailing a cover letter/resume to an online job post and waiting for a callback. Again not saying they shouldn't be applying but if all they're doing is emailing resumes to job sites, that's the reason they're still stuck at MNG.
And to the poster who considers PR to be a soul sucking endeavor; I really feel sorry for you. Either you have been indoctrinated during your time as a reporter or you're fresh out of college. I don't see PR firms laying people off by the truckload, reducing salaries and forcing furloughs; yet you've experience the gamut. You've been lead to believe that your work is noble and just while your corporate masters use and abuse as they see fit; look around, you're already a part of the dark side.
To: "February 6, 2011 10:13 PM"
Are you living in LALA land? I can almost bet that a very high percentage (like 98%) of those working at the MNG has NOT applied for a job somewhere else.
Be honest with yourselves and admit that you are comfortable where you are, and even if you get treated like crap, it is better for you than taking a leap of faith to a different place.
If everyone was applying to these jobs, why aren't they hitting anything. With all that experience and journalistic knowledge, you'd think that at least a few would have been snapped up by other companies.
To the poster who complained about the posting of 400+ jobs on jjobs.
If you click on each one, they give you a direct link to the person hiring. It's not just sending out a blind resume to a job listing, it is the actual company hiring you.
So don't go making excuses for the many who stay simply because painfully comfortable is better than sitting down and actually looking for a job.
Don't worry because as each one is downsized, they will look around, write their resume and send it out. It always works out that way.
do you people even remember that your talking about real people and familes...what a &%$#@! up lot your are!
hey 7:12, i guess you are the all knowing expert on all things. you should be a manager at lang.
2:46 is right on point. bullseye.
almost all the folks who took buyout have found other gigs. when the desks merged, some of them had other jobs within 6 months. you are right. the rest still there are complacent and not looking hard or looking at all. Their motto is there are no jobs out there. They can't find another job and have tried and blah blah
As they say, you can lead a horse to water but you can't dunk its head in the effin' trough!
Hey 10:46 PM- Get your facts straight nobody was ever offered a buyout, and they certainly don't sit at a computer and keep wasting valuable company time checking a blog site oh wait I bet you are you lazy and unemployed........ Blah Blah Blah
"...a day without doing your hair, you want to keep paying that house that's under water, you want your kids to stay in that expensive private school. ..."
This is the life of the community journalist? Not mine, and not any of the ones I know.
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