Comings and goings
Ben Demers, assistant city editor at the San Bernardino Sun, is leaving for the Glendale News-Press. At the very least the new job is closer to home - he'd apparently put in for a transfer to the San Gabriel Valley Tribune but had yet to hear anything when the Glendale position came through.
It used to be these kinds of movements went the other way.
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17 comments:
Careful Ben. You think it's bad over here? Just wait. I came over from the News-Press to LANG a couple years ago. When the workload, Tribune Co. insecurity, crappy pay, and Danette Goulet end up grinding you in the dust, I won't say I told you so.
Truth be told, it's bad ALL over.
Congrats, Ben. How sad that someone would try to discourage you or want to make you second-guess yourself by trying to convince you that you're making a mistake by leaving the Sun. Because there are no insecurities, crappy pay or impossible workloads there, right?
Bottom line, you escaped on your own terms with a job in journalism. Meanwhile, other people are jealous and angry at either being stuck where they are or because they have been politely told to leave in various terms. May be they are unsure about the direction their own lives have taken so they need to rain on the parades of others.
Either way, pay no attention to those little men behind the curtain. Good luck!
I agree. That message makes it sound as if it's much worse at the News-Press than anywhere else. Whoever wrote that top message needs to check their jealousy at the door. It sure doesn't sound like a LANG employee wrote that ... unless Steve L. wrote it.
I think congratulations are in order to the Glendale News Press. You guys have hired one hell of an editor and those reporters are getting someone who cares about the people he works with.
As for The Sun folk, shame on you. I would explain further why you should be ashamed but I don't think I even need too. There's so much the higher ups there should be ashamed of.
I don't think it's Lambert. You're forgetting who came from Glendale to the Daily Bulletin just a few years ago.
Think about it.
Ya got me Mike. I honestly don't know.
You are right Mike! Lambert never worked at the Glendale News-Press, he came from back east somewhere. But I know who did work there and why that comment seems tinged with envy.
You see, Ben is not only universally well-liked and highly competent, he is someone who management didn't want to leave. Someone they might have even fought to keep. The same can't be said for others.
I can't think of anyone who wouldn't agree that losing Ben is a huge loss, and that he is indeed very competent. But honestly, I have a tough time imagining that they fought (or would have fought) to keep him.
Congratulations on the new job, Ben. We're pulling for you way out here in Nebraska!
The Sun crew should redecorate his desk. Because really Ben, so much clutter on that desk. Hoo mama!
Nobody's guessed who I am, but I ain't management and I ain't never worked out of the IE. Just a former News-Presser who knows that, as bad as it is over here, it's been bad over there for a while. I wish Ben the best over there, I really do. I know he is a likable guy and a great editor. But that supposed "twinge" of jealousy you all detected, it is really fear, fear that a great journalist is going from a sinking ship to one that is already lying on the bottom of the ocean.
Mm. Ben, rethink the News-Press move. Also, I know who went from the News-Press to the San Bernardino -- Jeff Keating.
Let me put it this way -- out of all the reporters who covered that horrific Metrolink train crash, none of them are there anymore. Several quit even without jobs lined up, including, I suspect, the guy Ben will be replacing.
Good luck and God speed. Let's just say while I worked there, I took to printing out Psalms to have in front of me at all times to keep my cool.
That being said people, it really is bad at the Sun. The whole city desk is gone (except for one editor. Several people have been laid off. Now comes word that the Redlands Daily Facts education writer has either quit or been shown the door. More cuts are coming. And at least one person will be cut from the newsroom in the IE.
Maybe being at the bottom of the ocean is better at this point. Because the depression and resentment felt in the Sun and Bulletin newsrooms is stifling... at least it is for many.
"but I ain't management and I ain't never worked out of the IE."
Nice try. Way to "dumb it down" to cleverly conceal your identity, Mr. J.K.
I agree the previous "I ain't in management" comment raises some suspicions.
I wnder how Keating likes it at Western University. I hear they fire people regularly over there but I'm sure his stellar "people skills" will keep him on the payroll.
So here I am an active person in my community, assigned to Google Demers and find out a bit about him before my boss and I meet with him later this month, and I find my way across posts about Keating.
I was with them YEARS ago, but then Keating took three newspapers that had a long list of CNP and LAPC 1st and 2nd winners every years for years on a shoe-string, and turned them into shoppers that even the non-journos laugh at locally.
Nobody was surprised he was employed by someone his paper once covered. We THOUGHT he'd end up with Rick Caruso, but once Caruso sweet-talked JK and got everything he wanted, the limo rides and expensive lunches stopped. JK's reporters were NOT discreet about their embarrassment, on that and other matters.
Glad to gather Demers will likely be a pro with integrity, but wondering how much Goulet will sit on him. I'd love to have real newspapers back where I live and work.
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